Problems With Attacking!!!!!! - Guild Wars Forums

dark_prince2023 · Mar 27, 2007, 06:58 AM // 06:58

Don't know if this has been answered yet but I'm having problems with my Prof W/Mo and attacking in Nightfall. I have a firery dragon sword with max dmg and 12 points in swordman but I only do dmg if I'm using skills all other times I hit for 0. This is happaning on alll nightfall baddies

Mr. Fahrenheit · Mar 27, 2007, 07:08 AM // 07:08

Does this even happen on Fanged Ibongas on Istan?

Kook~NBK~ · Mar 27, 2007, 07:10 AM // 07:10

Even on the critters outside of Kamadan? Sounds like a bug to me. Try a different sword (might help) and report the problem to A-Net.

-.- · Mar 27, 2007, 07:21 AM // 07:21

I'm guessing you're using a shitty sword against those Kournan Dervishes with Armor of Sanctuary.

widowdaballa · Mar 27, 2007, 07:39 AM // 07:39

Once I accidentally put all my points into hammer mastery instead of axe mastery. lol That might be the case!

Seriously though, perhaps, someone correct me if i'm wrong, but if your weapon has a req of 13 swordsmanship, and you only have 12, it won't do the max damage because you didn't meet the requirement? Maybe that's the case.

Another thing is, in Nightfall, alot of enemies have good skills. Such as the Dervish(Armor of Sanctity as another poster said), ele(Stoneflesh Aura), etc.

dark_prince2023 · Mar 27, 2007, 08:38 AM // 08:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by -.-

I'm guessing you're using a shitty sword against those Kournan Dervishes with Armor of Sanctuary.

nope its a max dmg firey dragon sword of swordmanship and my attrabute points are in swordmanship and its aganist everything in Nightfall! My attributes for swordmanship is 13 and the req for the wep is 11!

Etta · Mar 27, 2007, 10:31 AM // 10:31

13 is to low for melee weapon, 15-16 is more exceptable. Dont spread out your attribute points to much, focus on 1 main skill be it sword, axe, hammer. And see if the enemy you're fighting have enchantment on them or someone hexed you.

In NF dervish, earth ele, prot monk, paragon and necro can cut down your dmg output, also condition such as weakness can affect your dmg as well.

Lastly you should have more than 1 main weapon, FDS is nice to look at but what would you do if you come across enemy with high armor VS element?
And by the way, what've you got on your skills bar?

dark_prince2023 · Mar 27, 2007, 11:16 AM // 11:16

sorry for the misunderstanding but its not 13 attribute points its swordmanship at 13 swordmanship is maxed out plus 1 sorry for the mix up my skills do bout 45-90 or so dmg

Commander Ryker · Mar 27, 2007, 12:29 PM // 12:29

Could it be that you are attacking low level foes?

dark_prince2023 · Mar 27, 2007, 03:24 PM // 15:24

no I'm not attacking low levels and if I was I should be doing way more then 0!

Commander Ryker · Mar 27, 2007, 05:21 PM // 17:21

oh yeah! I was thinking of exp. sorry

KANE OG · Mar 27, 2007, 06:36 PM // 18:36

A Wammo with a Fiery Dragon Sword..... there's something you don't see everyday.

Seitheach · Mar 27, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33

Maybe you could post a screenshot of you attacking in both Elona and another continent. Also, could you post your attributes, skills and weapon to clarify a lot for us?

Kuldebar Valiturus · Mar 27, 2007, 09:40 PM // 21:40

Doesn't the Strength attribute have a lot to do with warrior damage as well?

-.- · Mar 27, 2007, 09:43 PM // 21:43

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Originally Posted by Kuldebar Valiturus

Doesn't the Strength attribute have a lot to do with warrior damage as well?

Yes, but it only comes into play when an attack skill is used.

wetsparks · Mar 27, 2007, 09:55 PM // 21:55

Lots of enemy mobs cast weakness on you also, check for that along with the eles and dervishes that have armor boosting spells.

Stormlord Alex · Mar 27, 2007, 09:57 PM // 21:57

And even then... it's still a paltry amount.
At least Strength gives us Flail

Spartan117 · Mar 27, 2007, 10:08 PM // 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuldebar Valiturus

Doesn't the Strength attribute have a lot to do with warrior damage as well?

Yes strength has alot to do with a tanks ability to deal damage. It lets the warrior penitrate the enemy's armor. with low strength not much damage can be done, basicly the warrior's attacks would quotes "glance" off the armor of the enemy. so you pretty much want high strength to go with the other attributes.

Relambrien · Mar 27, 2007, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by Spartan117

Yes strength has alot to do with a tanks ability to deal damage. It lets the warrior penitrate the enemy's armor. with low strength not much damage can be done, basicly the warrior's attacks would quotes "glance" off the armor of the enemy. so you pretty much want high strength to go with the other attributes.

I hope this guy is being sarcastic. This is what Strength does:

When an attack SKILL is used, you get armor penetration by a PERCENTAGE equivalent to your Strength attribute. So if you use an attack skill against a 60AL target with 9 Strength, the enemy gets 91% of their normal armor bonus, meaning 54.6AL. At 12 Strength, they get 88% of their armor bonus, meaning 52.8AL. It's still completely pathetic either way, with a change of less than 8 AL. Obviously it takes away more raw AL from higher-armor targets since it's a percentage, but even then it's nothing that spectacular.

Anyway, on the OP's problem. Please take a screenshot of you attacking one of the level 1 enemies outside of kamadan with your attribute window up. Post it on imageshack or something and link to it here. We'll be able to help you more if you do that.

What we specifically need to see in the screenshot:

Your Swordsmanship level
The amount of damage you're doing with your attack
The enemy you're attacking

If you could post a screenshot with your weapon's stats, that would be nice too.

Raiin Maker · Mar 27, 2007, 10:22 PM // 22:22

I have the same problem... Using Victo's.... Have 12 Axe mastery... if i am not using skills, i will usually hit 0 damage on mobs of my level... sometimes i hit 1 i think. Maybe the mobs just have very high amour? Thats what i thought but now i am not sure.

Mar 27, 2007, 06:58 AM // 06:58	#1
dark_prince2023 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2007 Profession: W/Mo	Problems With Attacking!!!!!! Don't know if this has been answered yet but I'm having problems with my Prof W/Mo and attacking in Nightfall. I have a firery dragon sword with max dmg and 12 points in swordman but I only do dmg if I'm using skills all other times I hit for 0. This is happaning on alll nightfall baddies

Mar 27, 2007, 11:16 AM // 11:16	#8
dark_prince2023 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2007 Profession: W/Mo	sorry for the misunderstanding but its not 13 attribute points its swordmanship at 13 swordmanship is maxed out plus 1 sorry for the mix up my skills do bout 45-90 or so dmg Last edited by dark_prince2023; Mar 27, 2007 at 11:18 AM // 11:18..

Mar 27, 2007, 07:08 AM // 07:08	#2
Mr. Fahrenheit Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Broadway Profession: D/	Does this even happen on Fanged Ibongas on Istan?

Mar 27, 2007, 07:10 AM // 07:10	#3
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	Even on the critters outside of Kamadan? Sounds like a bug to me. Try a different sword (might help) and report the problem to A-Net.

Mar 27, 2007, 07:21 AM // 07:21	#4
-.- Banned Join Date: Oct 2006	I'm guessing you're using a shitty sword against those Kournan Dervishes with Armor of Sanctuary.

Mar 27, 2007, 07:39 AM // 07:39	#5
widowdaballa Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TeXaS Guild: Xen of Onslaught [XoO] Xen Of Heroes Division	Once I accidentally put all my points into hammer mastery instead of axe mastery. lol That might be the case! Seriously though, perhaps, someone correct me if i'm wrong, but if your weapon has a req of 13 swordsmanship, and you only have 12, it won't do the max damage because you didn't meet the requirement? Maybe that's the case. Another thing is, in Nightfall, alot of enemies have good skills. Such as the Dervish(Armor of Sanctity as another poster said), ele(Stoneflesh Aura), etc.

Mar 27, 2007, 10:31 AM // 10:31	#7
Etta Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mancland, British Empire	13 is to low for melee weapon, 15-16 is more exceptable. Dont spread out your attribute points to much, focus on 1 main skill be it sword, axe, hammer. And see if the enemy you're fighting have enchantment on them or someone hexed you. In NF dervish, earth ele, prot monk, paragon and necro can cut down your dmg output, also condition such as weakness can affect your dmg as well. Lastly you should have more than 1 main weapon, FDS is nice to look at but what would you do if you come across enemy with high armor VS element? And by the way, what've you got on your skills bar?

Mar 27, 2007, 12:29 PM // 12:29	#9
Commander Ryker Site Contributor Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: R/	Could it be that you are attacking low level foes?

Mar 27, 2007, 03:24 PM // 15:24	#10
dark_prince2023 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2007 Profession: W/Mo	no I'm not attacking low levels and if I was I should be doing way more then 0!

Mar 27, 2007, 05:21 PM // 17:21	#11
Commander Ryker Site Contributor Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: R/	oh yeah! I was thinking of exp. sorry

Mar 27, 2007, 06:36 PM // 18:36	#12
KANE OG Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: Ogmios Graybeards Profession: W/	A Wammo with a Fiery Dragon Sword..... there's something you don't see everyday.

Mar 27, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33	#13
Seitheach Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: SfF Profession: E/Me	Maybe you could post a screenshot of you attacking in both Elona and another continent. Also, could you post your attributes, skills and weapon to clarify a lot for us?

Mar 27, 2007, 09:40 PM // 21:40	#14
Kuldebar Valiturus Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Garden City, Idaho Guild: The Order of Relumination (TOoR) Profession: R/	Doesn't the Strength attribute have a lot to do with warrior damage as well?

Mar 27, 2007, 09:55 PM // 21:55	#16
wetsparks Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2006	Lots of enemy mobs cast weakness on you also, check for that along with the eles and dervishes that have armor boosting spells.

Mar 27, 2007, 09:57 PM // 21:57	#17
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	And even then... it's still a paltry amount. At least Strength gives us Flail

Mar 27, 2007, 10:22 PM // 22:22	#20
Raiin Maker Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: England Guild: Blood On The Worlds Hands Profession: W/	I have the same problem... Using Victo's.... Have 12 Axe mastery... if i am not using skills, i will usually hit 0 damage on mobs of my level... sometimes i hit 1 i think. Maybe the mobs just have very high amour? Thats what i thought but now i am not sure.